[Garrett]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:11:46 pm #3326 I just finished getting caught up on everything I missed and... remind me again why I quit? In hindsight, that was the worst decision of guy life because this game looks insane. So many twists, so much drama, so many OTT characters

So who's everyone rooting for/against? I'm Team Vytas first and foremost, but I also like Rory. And as much as I love Andrea, I do not want her to go much further. She's just too calm for my liking. Same goes for Ashley.

[Garrett]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:14:48 pm #3327 Oh! And Poods, when do we get permissions to view everything? Merge?

[Stephanie]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:26:11 pm #3330 Didn't you quit because you're on vacation? How is/was it?

[Sophie]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:26:21 pm #3331 Rooting for Lil/Sarah/Ashley. Love them all. Almost everyone else was trash other than Andrea/Vytas who I do like.

[Stephanie]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:35:50 pm #3337 Who do you guys THINK will win? If you had to put money on it.

[Penner]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:20:02 pm #3340

I just finished getting caught up on everything I missed and... remind me again why I quit? In hindsight, that was the worst decision of guy life because this game looks insane

Didn't you quit because you had to go on vacation? I didn't think it was really a decision

[Penner]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:57:12 pm #3346

Who do you guys THINK will win? If you had to put money on it.

My money is on Brenda

[Cochran]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:07:15 pm #3348 Brenda is too good, I talked this through with Cass I think. Love Brenda but she'll be a late game casualty sans an immunity run which is possible.

Obviously I'm team vytas but I will be happy with Cass doing well, Ozzy Sarah also.

@garrett Ashley is not tame, she's a huge personality just give it time to show. I honestly think if she keeps going the way she is she may be able to take this, she has some friends but isn't outwardly threatening for the people who don't know her, you know?

I would be down for that too. No one left really can't take the win and make me unhappy besides maybe wigles? Who I actually really really like but she just isn't trying.

[Cochran]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:08:30 pm #3349 Also I'm surprised how much I liked Lil, definitely my kind of gamer.

[Cochran]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:13:31 pm #3350

Seriously wtf is with all the winners getting slaughtered right off the bat? Didn't this happen in some other All Stars as well, the first Refuge I think?

Sorry for the jinx, Cochran If it's any consolation you've won, being a losing finalist, a juror and a pre-juror, so it's like completing the box set

It's alright Steph, we'll both be back for winners and we'll destroy everyone <3

And you're right, damn. Guess I was always premerge bound here.

[Penner]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:33:09 pm #3353 Do you think someone can still win a jury vote if they got voted out pre merge and saved by the twist?

[Stephanie]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:45:03 pm #3355

Seriously wtf is with all the winners getting slaughtered right off the bat? Didn't this happen in some other All Stars as well, the first Refuge I think?

Sorry for the jinx, Cochran If it's any consolation you've won, being a losing finalist, a juror and a pre-juror, so it's like completing the box set

It's alright Steph, we'll both be back for winners and we'll destroy everyone <3

And you're right, damn. Guess I was always premerge bound here.

<333 Well there's bound to be winner's making the merge in an all winner's season at least.

Glad you're back and playing again anyway. I think this was your second game back? Hopefully we're in a game together again it's been like two years!

[Stephanie]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:48:28 pm #3356

Do you think someone can still win a jury vote if they got voted out pre merge and saved by the twist?

Hm interesting topic. I can see some jurors using that as a knock against them but for me personally if they played a better merge game than someone who didn't get voted out then I'd probably vote for them, I'd think?

[Garrett]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:25:52 pm #3359 @Steph and Penner, thanks for asking! My vacation was amazing . Probably the best I've ever been on. Since my brother and I will be graduating next year, it was our last family vacation we would ever go on, so I really wanted to enjoy it. And I really did enjoy it, but now that I see how fun the game was, part of me wants to be playing it .
P.S- if any of you lives near Disney, you've got to check out the new Pandora section they built. There's this one ride there that blew my mind. The best ride I've ever rode imo. Just know that the lines can get up to four hours though

Oh, and I think that Andrea could win it all if people don't realize how much of a threat she is and how cutthroat she can be

[Penner]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:26:15 pm #3360 I think it's definitely a big minus... they got voted out pre merge and rewarded with immunity making their ride even easier. I wouldn't write them off completely but they'd want to be significantly better than whomever they're sitting beside. Like if it was Lil / Ashley / Sarah as the final 3 I'd vote for Sarah by default, whereas without the twist it would be more up in the air

[Garrett]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:30:40 pm #3361 Well now that's not really fair in my opinion. I don't think, unless it's someone that was saved like five times, that this twist should even be seen as a factor. Take it this way- if it weren't for this twist, you wouldn't even know that someone had been saved by it. So it's not fair to hold them against it, especially considering they earned their safety by winning immunity. In the game of Survivor, if someone's on the chopping block but wins immunity, that's generally conceived to be an impressive thing. But what you're claiming is that, because of this twist, even if someone that would've gone home saved themselves by winning immunity, you wouldn't vote them to win.

[Jeff Probst]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:50:36 pm #3362

I think it's definitely a big minus... they got voted out pre merge and rewarded with immunity making their ride even easier. I wouldn't write them off completely but they'd want to be significantly better than whomever they're sitting beside. Like if it was Lil / Ashley / Sarah as the final 3 I'd vote for Sarah by default, whereas without the twist it would be more up in the air

Cirie won Legends after being voted out in a similar twist. Catalie won Revenge.

Someone who's autistic should compile all the players who were voted out by Revenge.

[Penner]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:53:05 pm #3370

Well now that's not really fair in my opinion. I don't think, unless it's someone that was saved like five times, that this twist should even be seen as a factor. Take it this way- if it weren't for this twist, you wouldn't even know that someone had been saved by it. So it's not fair to hold them against it, especially considering they earned their safety by winning immunity. In the game of Survivor, if someone's on the chopping block but wins immunity, that's generally conceived to be an impressive thing. But what you're claiming is that, because of this twist, even if someone that would've gone home saved themselves by winning immunity, you wouldn't vote them to win.

No not really, I just think in this particular scenario, you thought you could be voted out of the game entirely, you do everything to survive and still fail - it's not a mark of a good game. There's zero information for you to even make a calculated guess as to whether you'd go home or not.

The only instance where I think it's OK is when Cochran knew he definitely wasn't going home and volunteered to go home.

Again that not to say the person should never be able to win, but they have some compensating to do.

What would you say if the person has been voted out twice? Like Liliana?

[Garrett]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:02:09 pm #3373

Well now that's not really fair in my opinion. I don't think, unless it's someone that was saved like five times, that this twist should even be seen as a factor. Take it this way- if it weren't for this twist, you wouldn't even know that someone had been saved by it. So it's not fair to hold them against it, especially considering they earned their safety by winning immunity. In the game of Survivor, if someone's on the chopping block but wins immunity, that's generally conceived to be an impressive thing. But what you're claiming is that, because of this twist, even if someone that would've gone home saved themselves by winning immunity, you wouldn't vote them to win.

No not really, I just think in this particular scenario, you thought you could be voted out of the game entirely, you do everything to survive and still fail - it's not a mark of a good game. There's zero information for you to even make a calculated guess as to whether you'd go home or not.

The only instance where I think it's OK is when Cochran knew he definitely wasn't going home and volunteered to go home.

Again that not to say the person should never be able to win, but they have some compensating to do.

What would you say if the person has been voted out twice? Like Liliana?

Hmm I definitely see your point as well. But who knows, with how many people there have been voted out from this twist, there's a good chance the final three is composed entirely of people previously voted out. So it's a lot of circumstance.

[Sophie]

- Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:20:10 pm #3415 What? You are literally retarded if you think that being voted out of revenge is a knock against you/your game. It is not the same thing as redemption island at all. Essentially, you're on a tribe that won a challenge and so if you are voted "out", in no way should it be perceived as something wrong with your game. Lmao. It's part of the season's twist in the first place, so people like Rory/Lil that are still in and have had to go through that twist should not be looked at as having a fault in their game.

They have not been voted out. They've been voted to another tribe essentially since theirs won immunity.