[Rudy]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:11:32 am #10430 yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

[Sarah]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:11:59 am #10431

I enjoyed playing with Sarah until the merge. I had seriously hoped that Sarah/Liliana/Myself could band together and knock out players from both sides of the bigger voting blocks. However, both Liliana and Sarah never really talked to me much once we merged, and there was no sharing of information- something I expect people who seriously aligned to do, so I decided I needed to go the other route and hope Cassandra wanted me to be part of the Ozzy-Yul-Rudy-Rory group. And obviously she didn't

My perception of Sarah during the game and from the jury, was that she was either on the bottom and next to go, or being used as a pawn by other players. Now that sounds harsh, but in a crazy season like Revenge, the fact that Sarah was such a non-threatening player is really a strength.

No. I wasn't a pawn.

[Cassandra]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:12:59 am #10432

I don't think her move to stick with Andrea was smart, nor do I think idol-ing out Ozzy was. They were big moves but they put her in bad spots. With that said, hard to argue with immunity challenges; she won those and deserved them.

Let's recount what happened. I stuck with Andrea, knowing Rory was telling Ozzy about the vote, because Sarah was going to force a tie with us until the last minute. Then I won immunity and played my idol on Sarah. If I didn't win immunity, I would have played my idol on myself. I would have had to win the F4 immunity to win the game. It's the same situation, but the biggest threat and challenge competitor besides me is still there, and I have to face him too.

Here's what would have happened if I voted out Andrea with you: the same shit.

[Rudy]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:13:21 am #10433

Hiding in the shadows is great, so long as you jump out and kill your prey eventually. Yul didn't do that. He would have gone to the end with Ozzy and lost. I killed his prey for him, and not because he was biding his time, but because he wasn't going to.

*fans self*

Fuck, Cass got in your ass with this one Becky Bro. We need a response.

[Vytas]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:13:29 am #10434

but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game?

brenda for big cass, yes

[Sarah]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:13:52 am #10435

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

Then fucking vote for me! This experience has been HELL for me, I'm not going to lay down and die.

Also Lil and I were so tight that she had to get blindsided because people knew how much I'd fight for her and I truly believe that would happen for her too. We needed each other and I adore her.

[Katie]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:14:12 am #10436 What vote was that? I was on board for the Wigles one and wasn't paranoid about it one bit. AFTER she left, you or Sarah never approached me about what next move could be made. So what did you approach me with? You randomly threw out Brenda's name... with no context. And Sarah never was never saying anything to me about who should go after Wigles and what we should do next. Cmon, Liliana, get real.

[Andrea]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:14:27 am #10437

I don't think her move to stick with Andrea was smart, nor do I think idol-ing out Ozzy was. They were big moves but they put her in bad spots. With that said, hard to argue with immunity challenges; she won those and deserved them.

Let's recount what happened. I stuck with Andrea, knowing Rory was telling Ozzy about the vote, because Sarah was going to force a tie with us until the last minute. Then I won immunity and played my idol on Sarah. If I didn't win immunity, I would have played my idol on myself. I would have had to win the F4 immunity to win the game. It's the same situation, but the biggest threat and challenge competitor besides me is still there, and I have to face him too.

Here's what would have happened if I voted out Andrea with you: the same shit.

what was gonna happen in that tie anyway?

[Sarah]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:15:13 am #10438

What vote was that? I was on board for the Wigles one and wasn't paranoid about it one bit. AFTER she left, you or Sarah never approached me about what next move could be made. So what did you approach me with? You randomly threw out Brenda's name... with no context. And Sarah never was never saying anything to me about who should go after Wigles and what we should do next. Cmon, Liliana, get real.

Okay, so your issue was that we just smoothed things over and pretended to not care that you had formed an alliance against us by extension?

[Andrea]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:15:17 am #10439

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

Then fucking vote for me! This experience has been HELL for me, I'm not going to lay down and die.

Also Lil and I were so tight that she had to get blindsided because people knew how much I'd fight for her and I truly believe that would happen for her too. We needed each other and I adore her.

that's not at all the circumstances of how Liliana got voted out.

[Liliana]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:15:25 am #10440

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

so what you're saying is yul had two allies who wanted him to stay in the game? I think we all have close allies who would try to stop us from being voted out?
example: mia pleading me to vote rory instead of brenda on the night i idoled
how is yul having people who wanted him to stay anything special?

[Jeff Probst]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:15:40 am #10441 Andrea, as someone who as far as we know had a massive amount of control... is Cass's control being oversold here?

[Sarah]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:16:40 am #10442

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

Then fucking vote for me! This experience has been HELL for me, I'm not going to lay down and die.

Also Lil and I were so tight that she had to get blindsided because people knew how much I'd fight for her and I truly believe that would happen for her too. We needed each other and I adore her.

that's not at all the circumstances of how Liliana got voted out.

It was for me. That was my perception of it as someone left out of it.

[Vytas]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:16:49 am #10443

so what you're saying is yul had two allies who wanted him to stay in the game? I think we all have close allies who would try to stop us from being voted out?
example: mia pleading me to vote rory instead of brenda on the night i idoled
how is yul having people who wanted him to stay anything special?

speaking of that night, i flipped only because i didn't want tiger lily to go. i killed my game for her

[Liliana]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:16:59 am #10444

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

Then fucking vote for me! This experience has been HELL for me, I'm not going to lay down and die.

Also Lil and I were so tight that she had to get blindsided because people knew how much I'd fight for her and I truly believe that would happen for her too. We needed each other and I adore her.

that's not at all the circumstances of how Liliana got voted out.

ooh im curious, what were the circumstances?

[Andrea]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:17:11 am #10445

Andrea, as someone who as far as we know had a massive amount of control... is Cass's control being oversold here?

Cass...sounds like she's taking credit for doing a lot of stuff alone, but when she's pushed she admits to doing things in partnerships and trios and the like. The Vytas vote was not just her, it was me and her. The Rudy vote was not just her, it was her and Oz. And she'll admit these things...but I wish she didn't need to be pressed on them to admit them.

[Cassandra]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:17:21 am #10446

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

I didn't need that so much because I wasn't in that position. On Tianguan 3.0, Brenda vouched hard for my character, and I'm sure that was a big contributor in them eventually picking me over Wigles. After the Vytas vote, yes, I'm sure Andrea would have fought her ass off for me, but it never came up.

Rory didn't fight to keep Yul, he fought against Sarah because he thought she had jury votes on lock.

[Yul]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:17:57 am #10447

Hiding in the shadows is great, so long as you jump out and kill your prey eventually. Yul didn't do that. He would have gone to the end with Ozzy and lost. I killed his prey for him, and not because he was biding his time, but because he wasn't going to.

*fans self*

Fuck, Cass got in your ass with this one Becky Bro. We need a response.

I'm not sure I really can respond because she's right that I my intention was to go to the end with Ozzy. Obviously if I felt like I had a worst shot in the finals against Ozzy then I wouldn't have done that, I'd have changed my strategy. She didn't 'kill my prey', though, I wasn't targeting Ozzy. She's making it sound like she did me a favor. She didn't.

I wanted to go to the end with people I was close to, and that I felt I had a shot at beating. I think that was Rory and Ozzy. But with that in mind, I was close to Cassandra as well and I believed (and still DO) that I can beat her in the finals. She was a perfectly find second choice to sit next to.

With that in mind, I didn't just sit around and hide in the shadows. I did 'kill my prey' plenty of times in the game. I have a blood-soaked crown to prove it.

[Sarah]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:18:44 am #10448

Hiding in the shadows is great, so long as you jump out and kill your prey eventually. Yul didn't do that. He would have gone to the end with Ozzy and lost. I killed his prey for him, and not because he was biding his time, but because he wasn't going to.

*fans self*

Fuck, Cass got in your ass with this one Becky Bro. We need a response.

I'm not sure I really can respond because she's right that I my intention was to go to the end with Ozzy. Obviously if I felt like I had a worst shot in the finals against Ozzy then I wouldn't have done that, I'd have changed my strategy. She didn't 'kill my prey', though, I wasn't targeting Ozzy. She's making it sound like she did me a favor. She didn't.

I wanted to go to the end with people I was close to, and that I felt I had a shot at beating. I think that was Rory and Ozzy. But with that in mind, I was close to Cassandra as well and I believed (and still DO) that I can beat her in the finals. She was a perfectly find second choice to sit next to.

With that in mind, I didn't just sit around and hide in the shadows. I did 'kill my prey' plenty of times in the game. I have a blood-soaked crown to prove it.

Then tell us about it.

[Andrea]

- Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:19:03 am #10449

yul brings up a great point in his recent post about the few times he was seriously in danger to go home. People can make fun of him for his relationship with myself or even Rory, but can anyone else say they made a relationship with someone to the point where their allies fought HARD to keep him in the game? See the candice vote as well as F4 when Rory tied for him. What does this say about his social game and impact on others?

Response from Sarah and Cass?

Also, Sarah, I really do admire your hustle and fight. Your performance has been impressive.

Then fucking vote for me! This experience has been HELL for me, I'm not going to lay down and die.

Also Lil and I were so tight that she had to get blindsided because people knew how much I'd fight for her and I truly believe that would happen for her too. We needed each other and I adore her.

that's not at all the circumstances of how Liliana got voted out.

It was for me. That was my perception of it as someone left out of it.

We wanted you or Mia--I can't remember which one--but we were worried about Mia's idol and we didn't know if she was going to play it on you or herself. We'd been planning to split the votes 3-3 and then you 3, and then pile on one or the other of you on the revote, I don't remember. But Rory was being sketchy as hell so I said we need to pull a Survivor: Fiji and vote for the 3rd one in the alliance whose name has not been brought up all day who we know the idol won't be played on. Liliana.