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#9506 Where is the comment where Vytas called Andrea Hitler? I am poor with details clearly and can't remember when/if I even saw that.
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Rudy wrote:Andrea - Her game is confusing to me. Her turning on Vytas was a major turning point for her. She's going to say it was strategic and that Vytas leaving her out of the vote was a sign that he was not to be trusted. However, I don't buy that 100%. Right after the vote, Yul and I decided that WE HAD TO WORK ON HER. I knew she was an emotional player, so Yul and I strategized on what "trigger words" to use with her after Brenda left. I kept hammering home that she didn't have a "partnership" with Vytas and that he didn't "value" her opinion. I reminded her that Yul and I would never treat each other like that and she deserved better. She was definitely riled up.


that's brilliant icon_laughing congrats!

i agree with your assessments for 6 of them, but let's talk about yul. maybe you can convince me that he deserves my vote. idk. i like him but i don't respect his game. all the time i was on the same tribe with you and him, i considered him your vote doubler. was there ANY move that he can claim?

my ranking as of now would be
1 ozzy
2 big cass
3 rory
4 sarah
5 yul
6 hitler
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Mia wrote:
Andrea wrote:I didn't want to go with the messy group no one really likes? Different strokes.


Personal stuff aside this is why your gameplay sucked. You burned your game and others' games because you didn't like people. That's just idiotic. And yes, it makes you oversensitive.

What are we supposedly hurt over that you didn't say? I'm not following.

and that's a totally valid opinion, but from my perspective...i wanted to have a good time more than i wanted to make it to the end and that wouldn't have been a good time for me. i did what made me have the most fun.
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Andrea wrote:So yes, if it wasn't clear, I voted out Vytas because I could smell that condescending "I'm going to coddle the crazy girl" shit from a mile away and I wasn't going to go to the end as a goat with that. Rudy actually had me fooled into thinking he liked me, so you got me there.

I've always liked you, even unto this day! I just saw that as an opportunity to gain leverage in the game.

It was Cass and Ozzy pushing your vote. I wanted you to stay. I didn't "turn" anyone.

Makes perfect sense. They're playing hard. I should have come to you with the information I was getting. We both might still be there.

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Liliana wrote:no offense but i dont understand how fucking blind you would have to be to think going with the super tight group of 3 and their side hoe is better than going with the messy group who no one really likes.


Who are the "messy group who no one likes"? I mean- you had a lot of options in the game and still made choices that got you voted out, what... 3x??

DAMN! icon_lol

Andrea wrote:
Mia wrote:
Andrea wrote:I didn't want to go with the messy group no one really likes? Different strokes.


Personal stuff aside this is why your gameplay sucked. You burned your game and others' games because you didn't like people. That's just idiotic. And yes, it makes you oversensitive.

What are we supposedly hurt over that you didn't say? I'm not following.

and that's a totally valid opinion, but from my perspective...i wanted to have a good time more than i wanted to make it to the end and that wouldn't have been a good time for me. i did what made me have the most fun.

This is literally the most important thing. If you're not having fun, wtf are you even playing? It's a game.
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#9512 and like, am i supposed to feel bad about "burning others' games?" look after your own damn selves.
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#9517 Andrea I think the only thing bugging me at this point is that you seem like you have to be liked. I preach all the time how much I'd rather have a ton of fun than win, because that's usually why my game implodes too. But yours just isn't computing with me because the reason is something I'd never be able to relate to, and you're presenting it as this whole thing where you were trying to be with good people and do the right thing etc etc and it's annoying. Yes you're a victim here for sure, I mean Vytas called you hitler and that's not right. I'm sorry I made you go digging for that. But you can still be a victim and be shitty and vindictive at the same time. Because you have been. (I'm also not saying you deserve it, either, because you don't.) you seem like a tough person and I'm glad you're not just putting up with shit here.

But look. You were talking shit too. You backstabbed and fucked people over for stuff instead of confronting them. You're probably just as self-centered as I am. Don't grasp at straws to justify it. If someone deserves to get shit back from you, just fucking own it? Become the snake. Write one of your damn books about it. Put it in a t-shirt and sell it for 50 bucks. But right now you just seem like an exhausting person to be around.

I don't even know why this has bothered me so much. I think I'm good now. icon_smile
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#9521 I'm not grasping at straws! I fully own up to all that shit you said I was doing, and I don't think I'm trying to play the victim here. I certainly don't think of myself as a victim.

I got some shit in my last season for being a gamebot and being strategically threatening so this season I tried to make it seem like I was doing stuff for FEEEEEELINGS and that i wasn't being strategic because, idk, trying something new, seeing if i did better. and I did exactly as well as last time so my experiment's a failure, lol. but i'm not walking around feeling sorry for myself or denying anything i did now that the game's over. i absolutely talked shit and backstabbed and fucked people over and i'm incredibly self-centered. there's no justifying happening here. i was in character as much as anyone else. i'm good now.

the having to be liked thing is also valid but it's also SEPARATE, if that makes sense? let me see if i can explain it...basically i have this personality that makes me one person, and then i have completely crippling mental illness that makes me a goddamn basket case. so i grew up really letting kind of the boss bitch of me show, but then when anyone would give me back what i ENTIRELY DESERVED, that voice in my head would go "well time to kill yourself now" and like...not in a cute way. so that eventually became, y'know, very obviously not a sustainable way of conducting myself. meds and therapy have helped somewhat, but what's really done the most in just making me get through day to day is self-preservation. i don't dish what i don't take because i try not to dish. y'know? i'm sweet so people will be sweet back to me.

and to clarify, i'm talking about how i act in real life, not here. in real life i would neeeever stab someone in the back because holy shit they might say something mildly mean to me and then mental illness will turn that into YOUR LIFE IS OVER EVERYONE HATES YOU. but you can't do that here, y'know? like you said, you have to do shit and own it. and that's just something that i'm always going to struggle with, i think. i'm good while it's happening, but then afterwards it's nighttime and everyone's asleep and i leave confessionals about how i'm the worst person in the world and i need to jump off my balcony.

i'm not saying any of this to get sympathy or anything! this is my shit and i deal with it. but it seemed like you wanted, like, psychological insight into the Mind of Andrea so here you go. yes, i do have to be liked, but that's because when i'm around people who i know don't like me, i start actually shutting down. i'm not saying this is an attractive quality. it's just...something about myself i have to live with.

but i didn't give a shit about playing with good people, that was just some stuff i said to seem less gamebotty. i gave a shit about playing with people i wanted to talk to so i could have a good time.
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#9522 Makes sense, and thank you for sharing. I know I've been a cunt too so I'm sorry. I have to stop dicking around at work now (slow day) but I said I'd talk to you later so I still will.
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Mia wrote:Makes sense, and thank you for sharing. I know I've been a cunt too so I'm sorry. I have to stop dicking around at work now (slow day) but I said I'd talk to you later so I still will.

oh and just real quick? you don't have to apologize to me, i'm good. i thought it was REALLY cool that you owned up here to misrepresenting what i said before i even got here. like, that was super big of you and who among us hasn't said shit in the moment we regretted? but i know i rarely have the balls to just raise my hand and go "yeah hey that was wrong i shouldn't have said that" until someone like fucking forces me to. so...that was extremely cool of you.
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Liliana wrote:no offense but i dont understand how fucking blind you would have to be to think going with the super tight group of 3 and their side hoe is better than going with the messy group who no one really likes.


Who are the "messy group who no one likes"? I mean- you had a lot of options in the game and still made choices that got you voted out, what... 3x??


on the f9 vote, me, sarah, mia, and rory.
5 times, honey. and dont bring that up because look who did better than you anyway icon_wub
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#9550 anyway im not going to apologize to you andrea because i think after all the long talks we had and strategic discussions and history through the whole game it was a real scummy move to vote me out, dual personality bs or whatever aside, and my response here was perfectly justified
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Liliana wrote:anyway im not going to apologize to you andrea because i think after all the long talks we had and strategic discussions and history through the whole game it was a real scummy move to vote me out, dual personality bs or whatever aside, and my response here was perfectly justified

okay, that's your prerogative. i didn't ask you to apologize.
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#9563 Wow go Cass. She's proving to be a physical threat as well as a strategic one. She's taking this one home at this rate.

I think we'll see Sarah or Rory on the outs. It really should be Ozzy though if they're smart...
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