[Jeff Probst]

- Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:24:54 am #10061 Cassandra, Sarah and Yul. You three have come as far as you can on your own. The power now shifts from the three of you to the people you had a hand in voting out.

I will now turn over to Liliana. Liliana, you have until Saturday at 11:59pm c/12:59am e to address the final 3 and ask them for as much information as you need to cast your vote. They will then have until 9:00c/10:00e on Sunday to answer anything you have asked.

The floor is yours!

[Liliana]

- Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:14:02 am #10233 Hi ladies :)

This time around i really dont have any ill will towards anyone. I just want to share my perception of your game and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
seriously, thats it for now-- just correct me if im wrong.

Cass. You were tight with the faroes early, and at the merge, seeing only Ozzy left from the original group, decided to go with another duo that felt on the outs, Rudy and Yul. Unfortunately as time went on Ozzy, rudy, and yul got very close and you were on the bottom of the foursome but continued to follow along with them and anyone else that happened to join you, until you idolled Sarah. You wouldve been voted out if not for your 4 immunites.

Yul. You kept a low profile, not talking during tribal council, and stayed loyal to your allies, mostly going with whatever they said. You were able to hide in the background of a very loud tribe and just slip to f3 on the backs of your close allies.

Sarah. You were on the outs of many postmerge votes, never really deciding who goes home but always somehow avoiding it being you, through bigger threats being voted (from both sides) until you convinced Cass to idol you, saving your game, and then convinced Cass and Yul to vote out Rory.

More to come later, I just want to have a good understanding of ur game to spark some better questions

[Yul]

- Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:40:29 am #10236 Hey Liliana. Here are my disagreements.

Yul. You kept a low profile, not talking during tribal council

Yes. To be fair, not many people talked to me, either. I answered everyone who spoke to me.

stayed loyal to your allies

No. There are a handful of friends and/or allies of mine that are in loser's lodge or in the jury, and I was part of most of their exits.

mostly going with whatever they said

No. Do you think that I just nodded my head along the entire game? I'm not trying to sound like a jerk here, but I feel like you are just assuming this because I was quieter then some. There were some cases where I had an equal say in what happened, and some cases where I agreed with what my allies wanted to do, but there was NO case where I didn't question whether something was best for me.

You were able to hide in the background of a very loud tribe

Yes.

and just slip to f3 on the backs of your close allies.

No. None of my close allies are here with me. I was in on the Vytas blindside. I was in on the Rudy blindside. Andrea's. None of them carried me anywhere, they worked alongside me.

I agree that I put myself in a position where I wasn't the largest target, but I don't agree that I just sat around and nodded my head like a good little boy and agreed with everything Rudy said. I played my own game, had my own opinions, and I think the fact that the people you think I followed are on the jury with you, partly thanks to me, shows that.

[Yul]

- Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:41:25 am #10237

then convinced Cass and Yul to vote out Rory.

I didn't vote for Rory. We drew rocks.

[Cassandra]

- Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:14:47 am #10241 Gonna break this up the same way Yul did.

Cass. You were tight with the faroes early

True, but to lump Candice, Penner, and Ozzy together as "faroes" is a bit of an understatement. I had unique relationships with all of them--Candice as the one I never lied to in Faroe, Penner as the one I tricked in Faroe and near-betrayed in Allies, and Ozzy as someone I had played literally one round with in Allies. We didn't group together because we shared past seasons. If that were the case, you would have been a "Faroach" as well. For Candice and Penner, yes, our past history helped, but we knew there were going to be cracks, and those were already starting to show by the time we swapped. Still, I worked hard to make sure I was Penner's #2 and I was Candice's #2, and that the only cracks that existed were between them two. For Ozzy, as well as Cochran, Ashley, Sophie, and Sarah, as well as Andrea, Brenda, Vytas, Mia, Rudy, and Yul later on, we didn't ally because of past history; we allied because of the relationship we formed in this game. On original Bai Qi, I had the choice of going with Sophie, Sarah, and Candice to take out Penner, and I refused because I knew that branding myself so early as someone that would take out one's own allies was a short-sighted move.

and at the merge, seeing only Ozzy left from the original group, decided to go with another duo that felt on the outs, Rudy and Yul.

Not at all. I played the middle as well as I possibly could. I was entirely integrated into Tianguan 3.0, with each member discussing with me ways we could take out others down the road, while also using my relationship with Ozzy (which wasn't yet "duo" status) to build relationships with Rudy and Yul. Voting out Wigles and Katie was the least offensive thing I could do while also retaining every single one of my more solid relationships, giving me as many options as possible. I never had a foursome with Ozzy/Rudy/Yul. I had a personal relationship with each of them, and a personal relationship with Andrea, and all four of them coalesced for the Vytas blindside.

Unfortunately as time went on Ozzy, rudy, and yul got very close and you were on the bottom of the foursome but continued to follow along with them and anyone else that happened to join you, until you idolled Sarah.
You wouldve been voted out if not for your 4 immunites.

Again, that's not at all true. If anything, I pulled Ozzy away from Rudy and Yul as time went on. We began to be two duos, rather than me + a trio. I was never on the bottom of any foursome, or fivesome if we include Andrea. At F7 I had already discussed voting out Rudy. At F6, I had already discussed voting out Andrea on one side and voting out Ozzy on another side. At F5 Sarah would have gone home over me, but I had my idol regardless. F5 was, to my knowledge, the first round where I was an actual contender to leave, and I knew the entire time that I wouldn't. At F4, I may have needed immunity. I had deals with both Sarah and Rory, and even though it was F4 and there was no reason to lie I didn't fully believe they'd follow through on them. But I had already positioned myself so that an immunity win would be easy. I won the last challenge by over 15 minutes. If that's not setting myself up for victory I don't know what is.

Also, I don't want to come across as aggressive/intrusive/whatever, but I feel the need to address what you perceived of Sarah's game. Sarah didn't convince me to idol her. I told her literally 15 minutes before the vote, when she was worrying that Rory wouldn't vote with us, that I had the idol and would use it on her. That way I knew she would vote Ozzy with me. She also never convinced me to vote out Rory. No one voted for Rory. I forced a tie because I felt that I could beat any permutation of Yul/Rory/Sarah, and thought that 1) if Yul or Rory went home, I'd probably get their vote, and 2) if Sarah went home, I'd probably only get her vote if I made an attempt to keep her. You can call that arrogant or whatever, but I don't think it's wrong.

[Cassandra]

- Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:14:56 am #10243 Gonna break this up the same way Yul did.

Cass. You were tight with the faroes early

True, but to lump Candice, Penner, and Ozzy together as "faroes" is a bit of an understatement. I had unique relationships with all of them--Candice as the one I never lied to in Faroe, Penner as the one I tricked in Faroe and near-betrayed in Allies, and Ozzy as someone I had played literally one round with in Allies. We didn't group together because we shared past seasons. If that were the case, you would have been a "Faroach" as well. For Candice and Penner, yes, our past history helped, but we knew there were going to be cracks, and those were already starting to show by the time we swapped. Still, I worked hard to make sure I was Penner's #2 and I was Candice's #2, and that the only cracks that existed were between them two. For Ozzy, as well as Cochran, Ashley, Sophie, and Sarah, as well as Andrea, Brenda, Vytas, Mia, Rudy, and Yul later on, we didn't ally because of past history; we allied because of the relationship we formed in this game. On original Bai Qi, I had the choice of going with Sophie, Sarah, and Candice to take out Penner, and I refused because I knew that branding myself so early as someone that would take out one's own allies was a short-sighted move.

and at the merge, seeing only Ozzy left from the original group, decided to go with another duo that felt on the outs, Rudy and Yul.

Not at all. I played the middle as well as I possibly could. I was entirely integrated into Tianguan 3.0, with each member discussing with me ways we could take out others down the road, while also using my relationship with Ozzy (which wasn't yet "duo" status) to build relationships with Rudy and Yul. Voting out Wigles and Katie was the least offensive thing I could do while also retaining every single one of my more solid relationships, giving me as many options as possible. I never had a foursome with Ozzy/Rudy/Yul. I had a personal relationship with each of them, and a personal relationship with Andrea, and all four of them coalesced for the Vytas blindside.

Unfortunately as time went on Ozzy, rudy, and yul got very close and you were on the bottom of the foursome but continued to follow along with them and anyone else that happened to join you, until you idolled Sarah.
You wouldve been voted out if not for your 4 immunites.

Again, that's not at all true. If anything, I pulled Ozzy away from Rudy and Yul as time went on. We began to be two duos, rather than me + a trio. I was never on the bottom of any foursome, or fivesome if we include Andrea. At F7 I had already discussed voting out Rudy. At F6, I had already discussed voting out Andrea on one side and voting out Ozzy on another side. At F5 Sarah would have gone home over me, but I had my idol regardless. F5 was, to my knowledge, the first round where I was an actual contender to leave, and I knew the entire time that I wouldn't. At F4, I may have needed immunity. I had deals with both Sarah and Rory, and even though it was F4 and there was no reason to lie I didn't fully believe they'd follow through on them. But I had already positioned myself so that an immunity win would be easy. I won the last challenge by over 15 minutes. If that's not setting myself up for victory I don't know what is.

Also, I don't want to come across as aggressive/intrusive/whatever, but I feel the need to address what you perceived of Sarah's game. Sarah didn't convince me to idol her. I told her literally 15 minutes before the vote, when she was worrying that Rory wouldn't vote with us, that I had the idol and would use it on her. That way I knew she would vote Ozzy with me. She also never convinced me to vote out Rory. No one voted for Rory. I forced a tie because I felt that I could beat any permutation of Yul/Rory/Sarah, and thought that 1) if Yul or Rory went home, I'd probably get their vote, and 2) if Sarah went home, I'd probably only get her vote if I made an attempt to keep her. You can call that arrogant or whatever, but I don't think it's wrong.

[Cassandra]

- Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:15:56 am #10245 Excuse the double post! It was uncouth of me.

[Sarah]

- Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:22:23 pm #10316

Sarah. You were on the outs of many postmerge votes, never really deciding who goes home but always somehow avoiding it being you, through bigger threats being voted (from both sides) until you convinced Cass to idol you, saving your game, and then convinced Cass and Yul to vote out Rory.

For the most part that's accurate but I wouldn't say I convinced Cass to do either of those things. All I did was convince Cass that I was a loyal ally to her which I was for the most part and that I was obviously better for her game that Ozzy. Her playing the idol was told to me 10 minutes beforehand. I didn't have anything to do with that play itself. I'm just glad she thought she could trust me enough.

I didn't convince Cass to vote for Yul either. (Rory went due to rocks, he wasn't voted) I convinced her to go to rocks for me. I use convinced loosely because I think at that point she already knew it didn't matter what happened at that vote. I just made my pitch that she should at least give me a chance to survive and she went from it. I tried to get Rory too but he ultimately decided to risk it there.

And even though things didn't always work out, I was always trying to make those big moves.

Also, if Cass hadn't won the Final Immunity I would have 100% voted for her. It's simple math.